Constitution Party: Group puts up atypical options to GOP, Dems
Benton is a member of the Constitution Party, a small but strident group who adhere to a literal interpretation of the U.S. Constitution. On Saturday, about 50 members of the party met in Sandy for their county convention.
"I don't know everything about government yet. I'm still learning, but I do know the difference between right and wrong," said Benton, who walked throughout her neighborhood inviting people to her caucus. Only one person showed.
The Constitution Party is small in numbers but there are signs of growth, its ranks swelling with disaffected voters who complain the Republican Party is just too liberal, too self-serving, too willing to abandon the Constitution. Too much like the Democrats.
"Almost everybody here has been a Republican, and we didn't leave the party, they left us," said Dave Perry, who ran for Congress last election and is running this year in state House District 45.
They are also benefitting from the Ron Paul Revolution, even though Paul, himself a strict constitutionalist, is still technically seeking the Republican nomination for president.
"He's 100 percent in line with us. He's 100 percent constitutionalist, and that's a very exciting thing,"said county Party Chairman Leonard Olds.
State Party Chairman Frank Fluckiger expects as many as 80 percent of Paul's supporters in Utah to find a home in the Constitution Party.
Statewide, the party has fielded 45 legislative candidates, 24 in Salt Lake County alone, as well as a congressional candidate in each district, and a state auditor candidate, the most successful recruiting effort ever for the party. And for the first time in the county party's history, delegates had to vote for a candidate. They picked Steve Maxfield Sr. over Randy Lee Browning to take on Republican Sen. Chris Buttars.
Olds, who worked for noted constitutionalist Cleon Skou- sen years ago, predicts one of the party's candidates will win this November. The party's cornerstone is the strident belief that God is the source of rights and government should only be doing those things that are explicitly spelled out in the U.S. Constitution.
"This land is holy land, and we've allowed it to be desecrated," said Ruth Christiansen, a national delegate who teaches the U.S. Constitution to 18 homeschooled children.
As the party reads it, rooting its beliefs in the Constitution leads to an anti-abortion stance; a hard-line position on immigration; support for gun rights; doing away with the federal income tax, the Federal Reserve and federal control of education and welfare.
Several on Saturday said the U.S. government is nearly as bad as that of Nazi Germany. The looming threat, in the party's view, is the North American Union, a merging of the United States, Canada and Mexico, which hasn't been formally proposed by any of the three governments, but is good fodder for conspiracy theorists.
"The reason we're looked upon as kooks is people don't understand. They don't understand the concept of limited government," said Olds. "They don't understand the concept of freedom. They don't understand their freedom is being taken away."
Mike Nichols, running for House District 31, got the message. He said he is a former Army intelligence officer who found out about the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks 15 years in advance and that it was part of the government's 100-year plan.
"These events the government has occurring do not take place in a short period of time. They are always [planned] 10 to 25 years out," Nichols said. "It's a big grand design and this North American Union that is coming up is part of it."
But the party's supporters are committed and its ranks growing, and Joye Wyatt says Benton proves that a few people still can make a difference.
"If a 93-year-old woman who can barely hear is here standing up for freedom," she asks, "where is everybody else?"
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Fresh measures to combat financial market tensions were unveiled by the European Central Bank on Friday, even as scares about eurozone inflation further reduced the scope for cutting its main interest rate.
Extending its armoury, the ECB announced its first injections of six-month money into eurozone markets. A €25bn operation will be launched next week, while a second in July will extend beyond the end of this year. The Frankfurt-based institution will also continue additional injections of three-month money.
The moves follow recent surges in market interest rates and point to heightened ECB concerns about the unfolding global financial crisis. The measures were aimed “at supporting the normalisation of the functioning of the euro money market”, it said.
But an unexpected acceleration in German inflation on Friday suggested the ECB’s main interest rate would remain firmly at 4 per cent in spite of sweeping cuts by the US Federal Reserve.
Axel Weber, president of Germany’s Bundesbank, expressed alarm about recent inflation trends and hinted interest rates increases could not be ruled out. He said in Luxembourg that the ECB would “act if necessary” to secure price stability.
However, the ECB knows that tougher talk on interest rates could lead to further upward pressure on the euro, which is already at record levels against the dollar and on Friday hit a fresh high against sterling.
Eurozone inflation data on Monday could show the annual rate for the 15-country region rising to a 16-year high of as much as 3.5 per cent this month, economists said. Eurozone growth figures for the first quarter could also be better than expected, said Jürgen Stark, an ECB executive board member.
Since the start of the financial crisis last August, the ECB has drawn a clear distinction between its actions to ease market tensions and its main interest rate policy, aimed at combating inflation. Even though the ECB believed the current level of interest rates would suffice, “the bank is under huge pressure to explain why it is not responding to this surge in inflation”, said Jacques Cailloux of Royal Bank of Scotland.





Its funny how voicing a contrarian opinion instantly makes you a megalomaniac. 'Thou shalt not rock the boat'. You, Hyper, are a boat-rocker, and therefore on the red-list. My hear no-, see no-, speak no evil monkey mind cannot allow you to challenge my world view, therefore I will attack the messenger out of hand, not give thought to the message, and tell Daddy on you. Oh, are you gonna get it when Daddy CorpGov hears about this.
But WHAT IF... you are correct????
"The key problem is you all have no clue how to break free and as I pointed out above you don't know when it's time to either."
Care to elaborate?
Joe: i have made less each yr for the past three
no cost of living
that's part of why i want to take one of these other jobs
because i know the wage is more than i'm making now
i see some people in other areas making much more $$
but then they have to live in chicago and st. l
i don't want to do that
i just want to make a good & fair wage here
me: i wouldn't worry too much about...it's all going to implode soon anyway
Joe: haha
naysayer
me: was not a joke
http://hypertiger.blogspot.com/
Joe: i was just looking at that the other day
Joe: i guess i'm like the other 90% of the world and think this is like chicken little
me: 99.999%
Joe: it seems so "world's going to end"
and only 00.000001% wants to think that way
me: God must be too...He put more than a little "world's going to end" in the B-i-b-l-e
Joe: yes, of course, and how many christians and christian leaders lead their life that way?
me: proverbs says "A wise man sees trouble from a far off and prepares himself"
Joe: yes, and the bible ansl says to give no thoughts on the things of today, because god will take care of those things
me: All i'm doing is seeing trouble from afar off...which is not as afar off today as it was yesterday. Bear Stearns collapsed in a weekend and many people lost their life savings.
You can put your head in the sand...your choice
Joe: thanks
me: now back to our regularly scheduled programming....
Joe: haha
me: so how about those cubbies
Joe: looking good
but i'm sure they'll find some way to screw it up
and bury their head in the sand at the end of the season
me: actually, the rest of that verse says "what you will put on, what you will eat" He was talking about trusting God for your daily needs. He wasn't saying ignore what's going on around you.
me: people will say "why weren't we warned...why didn't someone tell us"....b/c they wanted to cling to their delusional fantasies
Joe: ok, but go back to the blog you sent...
how many people can make sense of what he wants to say?
you can warn someone over and over and over again, but if they don't understand what you're warning them of, or what they can do to change it, then people will do n-o-t-h-i-n-g, and just move on
that blog is more babble thananything, if it doesn't give anyone
practicle things to change
me: people have no trouble learning something if they WANT to learn....people are smarter than that....it's all about CHOICE
Joe: true
me: so you want to be spoon fed all the answers so you can promptly dismiss them and go back to your life
Joe: but people don't know if you can't explain it in layman terms
unfair, Mike
me: that's just what i'm hearing
Joe: that's what you always hear
me: how so
Joe: I have to run to a b-day lunch
we'll talk about this later
cya
me: ok, ttyl
You know, if you get rid of all the religious bullshit and unjustified presuppositions from the above post, it can be condensed into a single sentence.
That's a lot of wasted breath...
"The money supply I'm looking at currently has to inflate by 11 Billion dollars a day...1 Trillion dollars every 90 days...
The next acceleration is 5 Trillion in 6 months. Then 3 months then 45 days then 23 days then 12 days then 6 days then 3 days then 36 hours then 18 hours then 9 hours then 4 hours then 2 hours then 1 hour then 30 minutes then 15 minutes then 8 minutes then 4 minutes then 2 minutes then 1 minute then 30 seconds then 15 seconds then 8 seconds then 4 seconds then 2 seconds then 1 second...to infinity and beyond."
Hyper T
So when was this statement made? Presumably one could do the math and determine a theoretical time of collapse if known. So what would be the current time frame which we should be looking at?
Also,
Isn't there some sort of "kinder and gentler systemic collapse" scenario that might play out?
The picture you paint is a bit grim . Aside from converting cash to silver you offer little if any advice on preparation for such an event.
Perhaps that is not your role to play, however reading your blog often leave me wanting to cry out for my Mommy, and that is just a bit unseemly for a grown man.
So anything you could do to make your message more palatable would be appreciated. For instance, you would warm it (just a bit) on the stove before you put it in the bottle.
Thanks!
In our Babylonian captivity, God was merciful enough to blind us so that we would not realize that we were even in a captivity. No uniformed troops were needed. And, of course, the prosperity of Babylon itself helped to hide the fact that our nation had been conquered.
The prosperity was brought about by the creation of money that was loaned into circulation at interest. This meant that a greater amount of money than was created would have to be returned to the money-creators of the Fed at some point. If the government borrowed a billion dollars from the Fed, it would have to return more than that eventually. An ever-increasing amount of money would have to be borrowed to cover the interest payments until finally it would implode.
I believe that is what we are seeing today. After 70 years, Babylon's debt-usury money system has become unsustainable and is collapsing under its own weight of debt. In a global economy, Americans are no longer able to generate enough income to keep funding the debt load, because we are sending so many jobs to other countries who have people willing to work hard for a much lower wage.
The fall of Babylon is only half of the story, however. Not only is God pulling down the world-city of Mystery Babylon, but He is also planting and building the New Jerusalem, which is His Kingdom. It is being built upon the foundation of the feast of Tabernacles and the love of God. It is being built in a post-Pentecostal Age upon the foundations of the feast of Tabernacles.
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.org/WebLog/WebPosting.cfm?LogID=921
"Step one Get over the shock...
Step two Reduce the cost of existence to as low as you can
Step three Get out of and avoid long term debt...If you have alot of equity in Real estate then it is up to you if you want to sell...A motorhome might come in handy...
The key is time...Now you have it, the above is not radical...When the main event takes place...There will only be enough time to panic...for 100's of Millions of people...They will not have time to get over the shock...reduce their cost of existence or get out of long term debt...
Silver and Gold coins will be money...Even cash will be if it exists in people's minds as money..."
http://hypertiger.blogspot.com/2008/01/thanks-for-showing-up-to-planet-earth.html
Gold was confiscated many times before, what makes you think it won't be again? Also, a motorhome? Without gas, what would you possibly do with it? A 40 foot cruise sailboat can store enough food and water to take you and your family to a different country or to international waters, and keep you autonomous for several months, if not longer. And all it needs is wind.
Once the fractional reserve banking system collapses, what will be the new "solution"?
You say people have been duped for 1000s of years and I do not argue the point - but more people today are aware of the fallacies of paper money.
The top will need to be more clever and evil than ever to try and push another fallacious economy past us. We aren't the ignorant superstitious serfs of 1650 anymore who believed diseases were demons.
People aren't nearly as easily controlled as that anymore.
How will the top get us to WANT to be slaves?
"People aren't nearly as easily controlled as that anymore.
How will the top get us to WANT to be slaves?"
Taken a good look at American wimps lately?
snip:
Security Tightened at U.S. Airports Following Discovery of Terror Plot
Thursday, August 10, 2006
CHICAGO — Long lines of irritated travelers snaked through U.S. airports Thursday as people waited hours to reach security checkpoints, then had to dump their water bottles, suntan lotion and even toothpaste following the discovery of a terror plot in Britain.
Guards with rifles stood watch in several U.S. airports, and the governors of California, New York and Massachusetts sent National Guard troops to bolster security.
The hours-old ban on all liquids and gels from carry-on luggage left travelers Thursday with little option but to throw away bags of makeup, perfume and bottles of liquor and wine. Baby formula and medicines were exempt but had to be inspected.
"They're ridiculous, but that's part of the price you pay for traveling during a time like this," Julius Ibraheem, 26, a college counselor from Chicago, said as he stared at the long lines leading toward the checkpoints at O'Hare Airport.
At Baltimore/Washington Airport, security workers opened every carry-on bag that passed through one terminal, and all the morning flights there were delayed.
"It's better alive than dead," said Bob Chambers, whose flight from Baltimore to Detroit for business meeting was delayed more than an hour. "It's inconvenient, but we'll make it."
Laura Yeager left four bottles of Gucci and Cartier perfume for the hotel maid before heading to the Atlanta airport for her flight back to Philadelphia. She still had to give up her lip gloss at the security checkpoint.
She just shrugged and tossed it. "It's better to feel safe."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,207709,00.html
"Gold was confiscated many times before, what makes you think it won't be again?"
If 'they' don't know you have it, how can it be confiscated?
"Also, a motorhome? Without gas, what would you possibly do with it?"
Keep the tank full, leave when you need to, find a safe area to park it and live.
"They" may not know you have a kilo of heroin at your house, but I doubt this will do much to alleviate your fears.
You have to spend gold, i.e. give it to others. (Otherwise, why have it?) And if you give it to others, they will know you have gold and the word will spread.
"They" can make benefits of reporting your ass to them irresistible, and/or punishment for not reporting (or for not turning in gold) unacceptable. Which is really what happened before. It's not like they tried to take the gold away, they pretty much did. And that was before computers, spy drones, through-wall radar and all the other crap.
Oh, and motorhome escape plan. Great idea! You know of any areas within ~300mi of your city, served by high quality roads such vehicles require, with access to food and water? Places you won't get kicked out of after a few days? I haven't seen any around where I'm from..
"You have to spend gold, i.e. give it to others. (Otherwise, why have it?) And if you give it to others, they will know you have gold and the word will spread."
If you choose to flee the country, you will have better luck with gold coins than FRN's. If it is in your hands, it is doubtful it will be seized. If you deal with others, take care who you deal with.
And remember, gold is only money because those in charge say it is.
My grandfather (who was a banker!) didn't turn his gold in and eventually discretely sold it in the 60's.
snip:
"We should clarify the terms of "confiscation". The US Government did not send armed soldiers house to house to search for and seize gold without compensation. Gold coins that were turned in were exchanged for legal tender Federal Reserve notes (paper money) on a dollar for dollar basis. A $10 gold coin was taken and the presenter given a $10 bill. Gold bullion was evaluated for its purity or fineness and compensated at a rate of $20.67 per ounce of fine gold. This was the official US government figure for what one ounce of gold was "worth" or "priced at" in dollars.
There were some exceptions to the rules. Special licenses were available from The Secretary of the Treasury via the Federal Reserve banks for certain professionals who used gold in the normal course of their business such as artisans, jewelers, dentists, etc. They were allowed to have only "reasonable" quantities on hand, i.e. they couldn't hoard large quantities of it either. Each US citizen could legally keep a total of $100.00 face value of US gold coins or US Gold Certificates. A family of four could have kept $400.00 face value of coins and so on. Banks could continue to deal in it with other banks for international settlement with additional controls and regulation, and store it for others. The wealthy financiers could still play with it in most every manner. Gold mining, refining and exporting companies could of course still deal with it. Just plain folk like you and me couldn't, at least not "legally"."
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_04/willis112804.html
Under various Executive Orders that already exist, once a national emergency is declared EVERYTHING YOU OWN CAN BE CONFISCATED!
But you want to have options. A motorhome is an option. There are plenty of areas within a tank of gas from my house that are safer, they are options. My brother has land (with well water) - that is an option for me.
Gold, silver, cash on hand are options. Cash is worthless? Use gold and silver. Don't trust anyone to trade your gold/silver? Eat your storage food.
If I wanted to be prepared, I would have cash, gold, silver, food (and anything else I think I might need - seeds, gardening tools, clothing, cosmetics!) stored.
Now is the time to look and make the best - for you - arrangements for 'what if's.' Unless your plan is to give up, lie down and die...
You all have brains - use them!
This is one of my favorite articles of the year. Very condensed set of views that seem to make a lot of sense. No doubt thousands of hours of open questioning processes went into this type of study.
OK, now moving beyond the sincere compliments and into the sincere solutions area.
Problem is defined - big crash coming and most are totally unprepared.
Solution is not simple, but some simple truths can be applied to our unique personal solutions.
Silver and gold are a solution that we can use. Come on Hyper, let's just admit it. For 5 or 6 thousand years these compact pieces of metal have held value and never have they lost value. Yes, they can be confiscated. So why don't you come over and find them? No tracking chips in them.
It is a partial solution.
Also partial solutions include getting self-sufficient in food. Moving to a place where arable land is relatively plentiful and the distance from a mega-city or densely packed suburban sprawl is quite far. Get networked in with like minded producers on a mutually beneficial barter system where friendships matter as much or more than the trades themselves.
Lots of pieces of soul-ution here if we just look.
Nice work!