Impeachment a hot topic at 'not Impeachment' hearing
After spending long hours, sometimes late into the night, making his case for impeachment before a nearly barren House chamber, Rep. Dennis Kucinich finally got more of an audience for his case against President Bush Friday.
Even though Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers insisted early on that the panel's evaluation of Bush's "imperial presidency" was decidedly not an impeachment hearing, the prospect was not far from many minds during the six hours of testimony.
Kucinich formally introduced his articles of impeachment into the record of the committees proceedings -- although he did not utter the dreaded I-word, instead referring to the resolutions by their more legalistic titles "H. Res. 333, H. Res. 1258 and H. Res. 1345."
A committee aide tells RAW STORY that members were cautioned to abide by the Rules of the House, which prohibit lawmakers from "impugning" the president's character during official debate. Some apparently took this to mean they could not explicitly call for Bush' impeachment. None of this would stop Republicans from accusing the committee's majority of seeking just that.
The prepared text of Conyers opening remarks referred to Congress's "power to impeach." When he spoke before the committee, Conyers modified that line to the "power to remove through the constitutional process" officials who abused their powers.
Kucinich was similarly circumspect in his testimony to the committee.
"The question for Congress is this: what responsibility does the President and members of his Administration have for that unnecessary, unprovoked and unjustified war?" he asked. "The rules of the House prevent me or any witness from utilizing familiar terms. But we can put two and two together in our minds. We can draw inferences about culpability. ...
"I ask this committee to think, and then to act, in order to enable this Congress to right a very great wrong and to hold accountable those who misled this nation," he concluded.
Kucinich's colleague Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) was far more straightforward.
"Based on all of the things this administration has done, it is probably the most impeachable administration in the history of America,” said Hinchey, who appeared alongside Kucinich and North Carolina Reps. Walter Jones and Brad Miller.
The New York lawmaker even accused the administration of deliberately letting America's No. 1 enemy escape after 9/11.
"I think it is very clear they did not want to capture bin Laden," Hinchey told the committee.
That Hinchey referred to "they" was no accident. House rules forbid direct attacks on the president's individual character or motives, so most of the witnesses were sure to couch ther criticisms as aimed at members of the administration generally.
Hinchey explained his assertion to Politico.
"I think the evidence indicates that very clearly ... bin Laden was close to being captured [in December 2001], there was a clear understanding of where he was, heading up to Tora Bora, in those mountains. He could have been captured," Hinchey said. "But there was a decision that was made through the Pentagon, and probably that decision had been made outside the Pentagon as well, within the administration, not to aggressively pursue bin Laden."
Hinchey added: "I believe that the reason for that was that if bin Laden had been captured, it would have been very difficult, if not impossible, for this administration to then justify an attack against another country. Not Afghanistan, another country. And, of course, Iraq is the country. So I think that it was clear, based upon all of the evidence that we have, that this was a purposeful decision that was made not to capture bin Laden."
In his opening statement Friday, Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL), a Kucinich ally in his push's for impeachment, also threw caution to the wind, outlining an array of Bush administration abuses, he said "certainly include high crimes" including ordering illegal torture and authorizing warrantless wiretapping.
"I am convinced the most appropriate response ... is to hold hearings for impeachment," Wexler said.
Similarly undeterred from mentioning impeachment was Rep. Hank Johnson (D-TX), who echoed Wexler's sentiment and warned of the potential consequences of not pursuing impeachment now.
"If this administration during the last 6 months decides to attack the sovereign nation of Iran," he said, "then Americans will look back and think and rethink whether it would have been worth pursuing impeachment at this time, to deter any further misdoing by this administration."
Committee Republicans weren't having any of the Democrats' hesitance.
"These are impeachment hearings before the United States Congress," said Rep. Steve King (R-IA), pointing out that Conyers's essentially called for impeachment himself even if he didn't precisely say the word.
Several other Republicans echoed the same sentiment, defending Bush from accusations of "high crimes and misdemeanors" that weren't actually the primary issue Friday.
"To the regret of many, this is not an impeachment hearing," Conyers said, pointing out that the full House has not voted to authorize such an inquiry as House rules require.
Hundreds gather for hearing
More than 100 spectators, including dozens of representatives of anti-war group Code Pink, began assembling outside the hearing room more than an hour before the hearing began. The Capitol Hill hearing room was packed to capacity, leaving dozens of activists out in the hallway, unable to enter; some chanted "Shame!" or "We want in!"
The hearing began about 15 minutes after its scheduled start time with Conyers's opening statement.
"We know the executive branch can and does overreach during times of war," Conyers said. "As one who was included on President Nixon's enemies list, I am all too familiar with the specter of an unchecked executive branch. And the risks to our citizens' rights are even graver today, as the war on terror has no specific end point."
More than a dozen witnesses were scheduled to testify, beginning with Kucinich, who accuses Bush and Cheney of lying to Congress in their pursuit of war in Iraq, among a host of other abuses.
"The decision before us is whether Congress will endorse with its silence the methods used to take us into the Iraq war," Kucinich will say, according to his prepared testimony. "The decision before us is whether to demand accountability for one of the gravest injustices imaginable."
The committee's top Republican, Lamar Smith, mocked the proceedings, comparing them to last month's hearing featuring former White House spokesman Scott McClellan, who recently wrote a tell-all memoir about his time as Bush's spokesman.
"If last month it appeared we hosted a 'book of the month club,' this week it seems that we are hosting an anger management class," Smith said. "Nothing is going to come out of this hearing with regard to impeachment of the President. I know it, the media knows it, even the Speaker knows it. ... This hearing will not cause us to impeach the President; it will only serve to impeach our own credibility."
The American Civil Liberties union praised Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers for convening Friday's hearing.
"Every year this administration has been in power has compounded the damage to our ideals and Constitution," Caroline Fredrickson, director the ACLU's Washington legislative office, said in a press release. "An executive branch that demands and holds too much power tips the scales of our system of checks and balances."
A live Web-cast can be viewed here, and RAW STORY will be providing updates on the proceedings throughout the day.
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Rep. Wexler recommends impeachment hearings
I think it's time the Judiciary Committee subpoena Nancy Pelosi, and question her about the backroom deals she has made with the war criminal traitors in exchange for not impeaching them.
Posted by: FreedomofInformationAct | July 09, 2008 at 02:52 AM
The problem with the district of criminals is that they are all blackmailable. When these politicians lead secret lives where they hide homosexuality, pedophilia, adultery, etc.,and their phone conversations, emails, all forms of communication are being monitored and compromised, we cannot get true representation. I believe that the telecom immunity is not to protect AT&T, Verizon, etc. so much as it is to protect Israeli telecom companies that have a stranglehold on Washington DC. It seems like the Neo-cons, and Rove is part of that ilk, are controlling all policy, foreign and domestic in this country which seems to be that Israeli interests come first. The wars in the middle east are to protect Israeli oil pipelines, land grabs etc., not to protect America. When people like Diane Fein(Ken)stein can be on the Appropriations Committee an not recuse herself from allocating billions of dollars to corporations that her husband is a major player in, that should be tantamount to insider trading. I'm sure Pelosi is also a part of the war profiteering ilk as well, so she also has an Israeli first mentality. So it doesn't surprise me that she will continue to protect Rove, Cheney and company, and since they find it so easy to steal election these days, they are even more bold.
Posted by: 1bassman9 | July 09, 2008 at 02:43 AM
Thank you for your outstanding investigative reporting, the kind that should be set as the new U.S. media industry standard. Nice interview carved out by Velvet Rev.
Speaker Pelosi is not above the law and must be held accountable as an accomplice and representative of these criminal murderous 1%er elite destructors and their corrupt Washington politicians. Someone should remind Ms. Pelosi that gender and or race status is not a prerequisite to a get out of jail free card.
Posted by: Grizzly Bear Dancer | July 09, 2008 at 02:36 AM
Throw Pelosi out of office and send the whole bunch a message.
Posted by: Radiodujour | July 09, 2008 at 02:16 AM
Pelosi has even bigger problems--she was briefed on the CIA's "enhanced" interrogations, aka torture, and didn't utter a peep in protest. Maybe that's why impeachment is "off the table"--Bush and the Repubs made it clear that if they were going down for ordering torture, they'd take Pelosi and other top Democrats with them.
Posted by: Bushfatigue | July 09, 2008 at 02:01 AM
So what now, Larissa?
This positively disgusts me. I knew that Pelosi was complicit, but now she is involved with obstruction of JUSTICE. She need to be impeached.
Joy Williams
Posted by: Joy Williams | July 09, 2008 at 01:36 AM
A NY Times article today implicated Pelosi in having contacts with FARC, the Colombian terrorist group with ties to Hugo Chavez next door in Venezuela, adverse to the relationship of the US with the Colombian government of Pres. Uribe. Notice that Pelosi also shelved the Colombia Free trade Agreement and kept it from floor debate. Rove has more on Pelosi than she has on Rove or anyone else.
Posted by: MarcySF | July 09, 2008 at 01:35 AM
thank you larisa. you have been really hitting them out of the park lately. i hope waxman keeps his powder dry until after the election. first we get rid of the gop crimnials and then we will get rid of the democratic getaway drivers. thank you.
Posted by: dexx | July 09, 2008 at 01:33 AM
Thanks for this 'heads up' Larisa; please keep at it.
Posted by: ubetchaiam | July 09, 2008 at 01:29 AM
I have been watching the body language of Pelosi and Reid for some time.
They are both acting as if there was something hanging over them that they feared. Perhaps Bush's wiretaps has gathered some sort of dirt on them.
There is no "spirit" in what they do and say. There is a lack of head on opposition to this disaster of a president. Their demeanor submissive and unassertive.
They fail to do what must be done to reassert the proper balance of power.
There is definitely something amiss.
I think that Bush has something on them, just like the way J. Edgar Hoover used his information to manipulate government officials.
Posted by: fixxit | July 09, 2008 at 01:26 AM
I think in October 2006 someone from cheney's office went to the offices of reid, hoyer, and pelosi and threw fat files that came from cheney's walk in safe...they have total goods on all three of these hack quislings, and they are accessories after the fact to every high crime, misdemeanor and war crime these sociopaths have committed. November impeachment is off the table and now FISA immunity is around the corner. How a dispised lame duck can ride roughshod over the party in power is a vista beyond the paranormal. This is the longest 6 months of our lives.
Posted by: myshadow | July 09, 2008 at 01:19 AM
Larissa, thank you for confirming what I already knew. Pelosi is a worthless piece of shit. She is as much of a criminal as Karl Rove. Fuck her and Harry Reid and all the complicit assholes who call themselves democrats. The US government needs an enema and the spigot should be stuck directly into Pelosi's office.
Go get them Larissa.
Rove must go down for this crime. He really needs a good old country ass whipping.
Posted by: ROBinDALLAS | July 09, 2008 at 01:15 AM
i think nancy pelosi is being blackmailed. do you not think that the bushies would spy on their foes first. what is in nancy's background that makes her vulnerable to blackmail? perhaps it is her husband's background? if this is the case then she is unamerican and self centered, thining only of her self and not the country. we need these f-ers to be prosecuted.
Posted by: mamameow | July 09, 2008 at 12:38 AM
More than likely the warrantless wiretaps that the admin has been so fond of has turned up a few "embarrassing" things on Ms. Pelosi and others in the dem leadership... it would explain a lot of what has been dem capitulation on EVERY piece of important, constitution restoring legislation that has passed their desks the last 7 years...
Posted by: sukabi | July 09, 2008 at 12:24 AM
How much longer are we going to suffer under this government? They are all whores, and Pelosi seems to be the Brothel Madam (and that's using polite language).
Why is she protecting the Bush administration??? Larisa, are you investigating that?
Posted by: abraham | July 09, 2008 at 12:18 AM
You harvest what you sow. We in America have got ourself to this point. What were we thinking, is only going to get worse. Hold on for the ride.
Posted by: Keon | July 09, 2008 at 12:15 AM
Pelosi is a SKANK!
She is probably a republiCON masquerading as a Democrat. Impeach that SKANK!
And they wonder why just today why just today Congress is 9%
Yes, NINE PERCENT.
Lower than the prez bush!
Posted by: FunMe | July 09, 2008 at 12:13 AM
If this is true, then is this not more than enough reason for the Progressive Liberals in her district to recall her?
Posted by: Don | July 08, 2008 at 11:44 PM
I am sorry to say this but I feel we will all be sold down the train by this current crop of Democrats. They are at least 50% rotten to the core and Pelosi ranks high in that 50%.
Posted by: ciloisin | July 08, 2008 at 11:29 PM
Nail these fuckers Larissa!
It looks like the climate is changing and it will soon be possible to investigate a human waste like rove.
RESPONSE FROM LARISA ALEXANDROVNA
Hey, where have you been? I have not seen you around here for ages.